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“Seedline Theory” Another reply

Posted by Lynn on July 26, 2008

I recently posted the following reply complete with scriptures to a topic that was horribly full of false interpretations of this subject that I found to be disturbing. Please read along with my other blog on the Seedline Theory.

I am really having an issue with everyones beliefs here. Forget the fact that the flood of Noah’s day DESTROYED all evil, there is no scriptural foundation to what is being discussed in this topic and just like the secret rapture it is false, a lie and misleading at the least. My heart is heavy and I am in torment because I delight in truth and finding answers to questions, not making more questions because the answers are false.

The Kenites of the bible are not from Cain, they are a tribe of Caanan during Abraham’s time. Also Moses’s father-in-law was Kenite therefore Moses’ wife as well.

Jdg 1:16 And the children of [Jethro] the Kenite, Moses’ father-in-law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.

YHWH blessed the wife of a Kenite

Jdg 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be, blessed shall she be above women in the tent.
Jdg 5:25 He asked water, and she gave him milk; she brought forth butter in a lordly dish.

The Kenites are not descendants of Cain. Cain was the son of Adam that was exiled for sin. YHWH was prepared to accept him had he did the correct sacrifice. So are you all saying YHWH was prepared to embrace the hybrid son of satan?

Adam ate of the same fruit as Eve and if that was sex with satan then Adam is a queer. Not to mention that by Adam staying with Eve after she bedded another is against the law which is the knowledge they gained from the tree. Whoever this enchanter was he was from the others created before Adam. That is why the children of Adam have enmity with those not of Adam’s bloodline.

YHWH never said Adam’s would war between Cain. It was Esau and Jacob who would always be at one another. Esau (who isn’t the seedline of satan either) is the twin of Jacob and they come from the same bloodline but because of the sin of Esau in taking Caananite women(not Kenites) He disobeyed YHWH.

The reason Esau cannot be of a serpent is because the Messiah confirmed to the Pharisees that they were in fact from Abraham. However they were not from Jacob but from Esau. (John 8:29-37)

The knowledge of good and evil in the garden (tree) was not having sex…..Eve was seduced to in some way by someone that was cunning and slick, an enchanter, to disobey Yahweh and by thinking she would not die by this because he was so convincing. By doing so, thinking we won’t die, are we not saying we are gods in a way? That we have power? I believe so and I think Eve did too. If any sex was happening it biblically had to be with Adam because that is what it says and because any other would break YHWH’s laws and make Adam and Eve adulterers. Not to mention Adam a queer, an abomination before YHWH.

Who provides us with the knowledge of good and evil?…THE OMNISCIENT YHWH not some demon god satan! That is plain blasphemy.

How does He transfer knowledge of good and evil to man? Man’s cognizance of good and evil comes from YHWH’s law. The second time Moses delivered YHWH’s law to the children of Israel he described the law like this…..

Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
Deu 30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

The words “good” and “evil” ascribed to the law of YHWH here are translated from the same two Hebrew words “towb” and “ra” used in Genesis 2 and 3 regarding the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So since the tree is about the knowledge of YHWH’s law, by calling it what you have, would not that be evil in the eyes of Yahweh? I would think so.

I beg that those believing in this theory please look into it further. Although I agree with Murray on alot, this subject and his belief is wrong and not harmonizing with the word. With this belief it misleads and when certain truths come your way you will not understand because they will not make sense.

Note I do not direct my comments personally. I exhort you to understand the truth and my rebuke is in brotherly love.

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Seedline “THEORY”

Posted by Lynn on July 23, 2008

Why do so many professing to be Christians believing in this theory? I will tell you. Because just as they believe all the other doctrines that are not true this is no different. The enemy has sowed his seed of lies into the very word of God itself. No do not get me wrong, God’s word is not a lie, the way it has been interpreted is a lie. This seedline theory has more questions then answers. I have learned from the school of hard knocks that if you have more unanswered questions than answers you really need to look deeper into it.

Recently while on another subject I stumbled upon Westley Swift. I read a paper that was really good and revealing. I told someone I trust about it and he told me to be careful. I asked why and he explained that although there are lots of truths to Mr Swift’s sermons that he is a seedliner and that isn’t biblical. I thought to myself, What is a seedliner? Someone who believes there are two races of people, those of Adam and those of a demon god serpent. Okay this freaked me out. I never heard of it before. So what do I do? I dove in head first.

What I found really disturbed me. People actually believe that Cain is the son of satan and that Eve had sex with THE devil and that his bloodline still exists today. What? Wasn’t there a flood that erased all evil INCLUDING CAIN’S DESCENDANTS? So here is what I learned for this theory to be true would also mean the following details……

  1. Since Yahweh according to scripture was ready to receive Cain if he only gave the correct sacrifice then Yahweh was willing to embrace the hybrid son of satan.
  2. Eve ate of “whatever” and then so did Adam. Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Doesn’t that make Adam a homosexual? He did after all eat of what Eve did and if it was sex with satan then Adam had sex with satan too.
  3. The flood only was local and when the bible says…Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. This has to be because for the theory to be true, Cain’s line survived. Therefore making the bible to be untrue.

Just these three alone should be enough to see that this is a very bad belief to think. To me it is degrading to even claim to know Yahweh if you believe in such trash theory. Revelations tell us that those the Messiah called vipers and sons of the devil were in fact the evil ones but they are MAN.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

This isn’t speaking of one single person Anti-Christ the world is waiting on, it is speaking of all of them. We were told that the anti-Christ was already at work 2000+ years ago. Man without god that think they are gods are the anti-Christ. The enchanter in the garden was no different. He too was a man. And according to scripture Cain was Adam’s so who exactly was it that was having sex? Adam & Eve!!!

So I stand today in a firm belief that Cain is dead, his descendants are dead (flood) and that Yahweh is not a liar, Adam was not a homosexual, and Cain was of Adam. But I will show you where this lie comes from….the very one that is evil man

For when the serpent came upon Eve he injected lust into her.” (Shabbath 146a, The Jewish Talmud)

“When the serpent copulated with Eve, he infused her with lust.” (Yebamoth 103b, The Jewish Talmud)

“Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field, etc.” (Genes. III, 1.) ’More subtle’ that is towards evil; ’than all the beasts’ that is, the idolatrous people of the earth. For they are the children of the ancient serpent which seduced Eve….” (Zohar I, 28b, The Jewish Cabala)

Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

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